Irish Traditional Music Tune Index
Tune ID# 1314 (Miss Ramsey)

RhythmBars8-bar phrase structureMode
Reel32ABCBD Major
Transcription of first 2 bars of Miss Ramsey
 about these two bars

These two bars are the start of my transcription of how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording Whr (details in the Discography below).

Where do you get the tune titles?
Titles given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
Miss Ramsey / Miss Ramsey's Reel / Miss Ramsay / Lady Mary Ramsey / The Queen's Shilling / Kilkenny Boys / Johnny Doherty's (1st in set The Chorus Reels on Srnd) (often with an intro of parts AB; also structure ABAC; also with a final coda of an additional part 'D' on Whr; also in G in O'Neill books) (compare as strathspey/highland #3906)
What do the "track#tune" codes mean?

cd Discography

Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc. They are listed in order of when they were recorded.

Year
Recorded		 Track
#Tune		 [Album code] Artist. Title. Primary musicians (instruments). Album details
and contents
~19856#1[TP 8] Tommy Peoples. Waiting for a Call. Tommy Peoples (fiddle).View album details
19912#2[FS] various. Fiddle Sticks. Irish Traditional Music from Donegal. View album details
199117#3[FS] various. Fiddle Sticks. Irish Traditional Music from Donegal. View album details
~19932#1[JMd] Joanie Madden. A Whistle on the Wind. Joanie Madden (flute, whistle).View album details
~19937#1[GL1] various. The Dance Music of Ireland. Jigs and Reels. View album details
~19955#1[Whr] Paddy Glackin and Robbie Hannan. The Whirlwind. Paddy Glackin (fiddle), Robbie Hannan (pipes).View album details
~20068#1[Srnd] Mick McAuley and Winifred Horan. Serenade. Mick McAuley (accordion, vocals, whistle, bodhrán, keyboards, percussion, guitar), Winifred Horan (fiddle, vocals).View album details

Bibliography

Here are all transcriptions of this tune under any title whatsoever – considering only the indexed books – listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are very similar to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.

As tune #1536 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #752 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #288 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2.
On page 159 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. [available]
As reel #445 in [HN] Henrik Norbeck. Henrik Norbeck's Abc Tunes. [available]
As reel #221 in [Cobb] Dan Cobb. Cobb's Music of Ireland. [available]
As reel #132 in [JKg 3] Josephine Keegan. A Drop in the Ocean. Traditional Irish Tunes Collected by Josephine Keegan. [available]

If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?

Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1903
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